coastal british columbia  

the JR survey, Private Property or Public Park  


check out the Jordan River information page, Autumn 2007 links to current & past news stories + maps of areas FOR SALE
With the recent announcement by Western Forest Products that they will sell some coastal blocks of property surfers have come to the realization that we could lose existing ready access to the point at Jordan River, BC.

A-Channel | Victoria news broadcast Friday Oct 12, 2007

fill in what you like. The more you and others fill in, the more use the collective feedback may be in support of turning JR into a permanent park

♠ Did you know that Jordan River was a bustling little village up until the early 1980s with a store, post office, bar, hotel, restaurant, gift shop, gas station, a school, and houses yes | no

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♠ how many times did you visit JR in 2006 ♠ how many times will you visit 2007 | ♠ 2008

♠ Do you carpool when you go surfing? yes| try to | try not to | no
♠ How many people, on average, are in your car when you drive out?
♠ How many of them, on average, would surf? and how often
♠ Do you bring your kids, dog, wife?

♠ what do you do at JR??? surf | kayak | windsurf | kiteboard | fish | camp |
photography | just visiting the beach | take in the view | other

♠ name / alias   | ♠ | ♠ email | ♠ postal code /town

♠ on an average trip to JR I spend $ in the surrounding area
JR, Shirley, Renfrew, Sooke, Langford, etc

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♠ I support having the

♠ reasons why you prefer one over another

♠ *rumour has it that Chip Wilson [ Lululemon] has offered 20 million for the parcel including the point at JR. His idea is to keep the land preserved as it is. The only addition would be a center somewhere for people to study ecology, art and movement. The only thing is that someone offered 50 million for 4 parcels and he only wants 1 for 20 million. according to his real estate agent, w.f.p would obviously like to sell it all for 50 mil.

No idea if this land would be held in trust, privately, or given to the people of the CRD, BC, or Canada.

♠ I belong to Surfrider | do not belong to Surfrider | comments

♠ I belong to West Coast Surfing Associates | do not belong to WCSA | comments

♠ I belong to BCSA | do not belong to BCSA | comments

♠ If the point falls into private hands I will;
quit surfing JR
park on the highway and go around the property to surf
park on the highway and cut through the property to surf
park in the pull out, other side of the river mouth & paddle out
park on properties across the highway and cross the highway to surf

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♠ Aren't salmon bearing stream banks protected 50 feet out in each direction? Would you support [work or donate $]} to improve fish habitat on the Jordan River yes | no

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♠ If the regional district took over the parking lot at the point and let WFP sell a few residential lots through the woods & south parking lot would that be an acceptable compromise [rather than selling everyhting] yes | no

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♠ [if telus ever upgrades the lines] would you like to see a webcam at JR yes | no

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♠ We watched Stephen Harper give a billion bucks of Canadian Softwood lumber manufacturer's money to the US despite the fact that Canada was winning in the process to reclaim those misappropriated funds. Do you think allowing WFP to sell this land for corporate gain is in anyway payback to WFP for Stephen Harper's billion dollar gift to the US [a portion of which belonged to WFP]?
yes | no
read about The softwood deal: a broken election promise - dogwoodinitiative.org

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♠ Do you think Stephen Harper's billion dollar gift to the US will make the US any easier to deal with? yes | no

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♠ Are Raw Log Exports partially to blame for WFP shutting down operations on the south Island and this land sale? yes | no

♠ Do you support a hefty duty or the total banning of RAW LOG EXPORTS? yes | no

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♠ Have you ever had any contact with the Clubbies or their associates [West Coast Surfing Associates]? yes | no

mostly positive interactions | mostly negative interactions

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♠ If the park at JR went public and required management,

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anything more you have to say
this land sale is not limited to Jordan River. Lands around Sooke Potholes, Muir Creek, Port Renfrew and many other places are for sale; WFP asked to have several thousand hectares of land from Sooke to Cape Scott removed from the tree farm, and much of that land is now for sale. (The figure mentioned at the Friday night meeting was 2800 hectares, I don't know if that is correct; it is more than earlier estimates though as WFP is now also selling lands that were never in the tree farm) . 45% of all land in the Jordan River / Shirley area is now for sale. (Private deals only right now, none of it on MLS)



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05_JR_spend: Burgers at shakies.
05_JR_spend: depends if wife and kid come
05_JR_spend: due to the aggressive, antisocial behavior of so many "locals" from JR, sooke and renfrew, i try to spend no money in there.
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08_kids_dog__wife: dog
08_kids_dog__wife: dog
08_kids_dog__wife: dog
08_kids_dog__wife: dog
08_kids_dog__wife: dog
08_kids_dog__wife: dog, wife
08_kids_dog__wife: dog
08_kids_dog__wife: dog
08_kids_dog__wife: dog
08_kids_dog__wife: dog
08_kids_dog__wife: dog
08_kids_dog__wife: dog
08_kids_dog__wife: dog & wife & friends
08_kids_dog__wife: dog occasionally
08_kids_dog__wife: dog sometimes
08_kids_dog__wife: dog sometimes, and Mom likes to watch
08_kids_dog__wife: dogs and wife
08_kids_dog__wife: dont have any
08_kids_dog__wife: don't have any
08_kids_dog__wife: friends
08_kids_dog__wife: girl friend
08_kids_dog__wife: girlfriend
08_kids_dog__wife: i will if it stays the way it is
08_kids_dog__wife: kid, partner
08_kids_dog__wife: kid and wife
08_kids_dog__wife: kids
08_kids_dog__wife: kids included in numbers above, yes dog
08_kids_dog__wife: mom, dad, bother, dog, friends, ,
08_kids_dog__wife: my board
08_kids_dog__wife: My husband and I go plus one friend
08_kids_dog__wife: n/a
08_kids_dog__wife: n/a
08_kids_dog__wife: na
08_kids_dog__wife: no
08_kids_dog__wife: no
08_kids_dog__wife: no
08_kids_dog__wife: no
08_kids_dog__wife: no
08_kids_dog__wife: No
08_kids_dog__wife: no
08_kids_dog__wife: no
08_kids_dog__wife: no
08_kids_dog__wife: no, I don't have any of the three
08_kids_dog__wife: no
08_kids_dog__wife: no
08_kids_dog__wife: No
08_kids_dog__wife: no
08_kids_dog__wife: no
08_kids_dog__wife: no
08_kids_dog__wife: no
08_kids_dog__wife: no
08_kids_dog__wife: no
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08_kids_dog__wife: no
08_kids_dog__wife: no
08_kids_dog__wife: no
08_kids_dog__wife: no
08_kids_dog__wife: No - don't have any
08_kids_dog__wife: not really
08_kids_dog__wife: single
08_kids_dog__wife: some times
08_kids_dog__wife: Sometimes
08_kids_dog__wife: sometimes, wife and kid
08_kids_dog__wife: sometimes
08_kids_dog__wife: sometimes
08_kids_dog__wife: sometimes
08_kids_dog__wife: sometimes
08_kids_dog__wife: sometimes, wife and kid
08_kids_dog__wife: SOMETIMES
08_kids_dog__wife: sometimes
08_kids_dog__wife: sometimes dogs
08_kids_dog__wife: wife
08_kids_dog__wife: wife
08_kids_dog__wife: wife
08_kids_dog__wife: wife, dog
08_kids_dog__wife: wife
08_kids_dog__wife: wife
08_kids_dog__wife: Wife and Dog
08_kids_dog__wife: Wife and Dog
08_kids_dog__wife: Wife and Dog
08_kids_dog__wife: yes
08_kids_dog__wife: Yes, kids, dog, and wife who surfs
08_kids_dog__wife: yes
08_kids_dog__wife: yes
08_kids_dog__wife: yes
08_kids_dog__wife: yes
08_kids_dog__wife: yes
08_kids_dog__wife: yes, my family enjoys the area
08_kids_dog__wife: yes
08_kids_dog__wife: yes
08_kids_dog__wife: yes
08_kids_dog__wife: yes
08_kids_dog__wife: yes, all of the above
08_kids_dog__wife: yes
08_kids_dog__wife: yes
08_kids_dog__wife: yes
08_kids_dog__wife: yes - when possible
08_kids_dog__wife: yes i bring my dog
08_kids_dog__wife: yes sometimes
08_kids_dog__wife: yes to all
08_kids_dog__wife: yes we used to camp at the point and would like to in the future
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08_passengers_in_car: 2
08_passengers_in_car: 2
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08_passengers_in_car: 2.5
08_passengers_in_car: 2-3
08_passengers_in_car: 2-3
08_passengers_in_car: 2-3
08_passengers_in_car: 2-3
08_passengers_in_car: 2-3
08_passengers_in_car: 2-3
08_passengers_in_car: 2-4
08_passengers_in_car: 2-5
08_passengers_in_car: 2or more
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08_passengers_in_car: two to three
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09_what_do: camp
09_what_do: dinner or lunch
09_what_do: drive by to Sombrio, but stop for food and coffee and photos
09_what_do: Eat at shakies
09_what_do: eat hang out
09_what_do: Enjoy an uncrowded environment
09_what_do: Enjoy an uncrowded environment
09_what_do: Enjoy an uncrowded environment
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09_what_do: fish
09_what_do: fish
09_what_do: fish
09_what_do: fish
09_what_do: fish
09_what_do: fish
09_what_do: fish
09_what_do: fish
09_what_do: fund raise for fire pits, covered eating areas and outdoor showers( i volunteer for framer)
09_what_do: get vibed out by the grumpy old dudes
09_what_do: hang out with other locals from the community
09_what_do: I live here
09_what_do: it is a park
09_what_do: kayak
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09_what_do: kiteboard
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09_what_do: live down the road
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09_what_do: relax
09_what_do: sunsets are spectacular
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09_what_do: try to avoid the anal locals who are brutal in their ignorance and dangerous kookjerk behaviour
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09_what_do: WATCH SURFING HIPPIE OUT
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10_waterfront_at_JR: access
10_waterfront_at_JR: Allow local people to oversee the care of the land they know
10_waterfront_at_JR: any kind of park
10_waterfront_at_JR: any kind of park is fine
10_waterfront_at_JR: any kind of park will do
10_waterfront_at_JR: any kind of park would be fine, whichever is more practical
10_waterfront_at_JR: any kind of park!
10_waterfront_at_JR: any park that preserves the area for the public will do
10_waterfront_at_JR: any park would be nice
10_waterfront_at_JR: any public park is fine with me
10_waterfront_at_JR: any type of park!
10_waterfront_at_JR: anything but private
10_waterfront_at_JR: as long as its protected for the public, , and development is kept under control,
10_waterfront_at_JR: as long as there is access, I have no problems with development
10_waterfront_at_JR: available for everyone, equally.
10_waterfront_at_JR: CRD Parks tend to be managed on a more personal local level, while BC Parks are managers of a wider portfolio which tends to leave some parks without.
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10_waterfront_at_JR: Crown land should stay in that hands of the people.
10_waterfront_at_JR: cuz I can't afford to buy it just for me
10_waterfront_at_JR: dont really know the differences between the different types of parks...
10_waterfront_at_JR: ecological reasons, but the right private ownership would be ideal.
10_waterfront_at_JR: eliminate the cost of parking, which seems to be the case with a provincal park
10_waterfront_at_JR: Everybody says park... but lets be realistic. We are going to have to pay for that shit. Personally, I think we should develop it and let the CRD maintain the development. I mean, look around, we don't exactly have high-impact development going on. No huge skyscrapers or anything. The point & etc. has already been logged to shit, so whats the problem here?, ,
10_waterfront_at_JR: Extention of the Juan de Fuca Provincial Park as the infrastructure and administration is already set up.
10_waterfront_at_JR: guaranteed access
10_waterfront_at_JR: I believe a CRD park would allow the most use to people from the local community as well as the international visitor
10_waterfront_at_JR: I believe a provincial park is the best way to ensure the longevity of having the area preserved.
10_waterfront_at_JR: i believe the provincial government should have made it a park in the first place instead of giving to wfp to sell
10_waterfront_at_JR: i don't care what kind of park it is as long as there is free parking
10_waterfront_at_JR: I don't particularly like how the BC Government is running their park system; the local parks authority should be able to handle it, as it is a pretty small area.
10_waterfront_at_JR: I dont want to see Jordan River turn into a big residential or commercial area.
10_waterfront_at_JR: I really don't know the differences and the ramnifications between the different types of parks.
10_waterfront_at_JR: I think this way the area would be conserved for future generations to come.
10_waterfront_at_JR: I trust Provincial protection of the wildlife and environmental stability of the biosphere. A controlled and protected Provincial Park is much more environmentally viable than a condominium complex or housing start of any kind. "A great view" is not reason enough to destroy a natural treasure.
10_waterfront_at_JR: I trust Provincial protection of the wildlife and environmental stability of the biosphere. A controlled and protected Provincial Park is much more environmentally viable than a condominium complex or housing start of any kind. "A great view" is not reason enough to destroy a natural treasure.
10_waterfront_at_JR: I would like to see it become a park with public access all year
10_waterfront_at_JR: I'm not very knowledgeable about which kind of park (crd, reg, prov) but I feel strongly that this should be a protected area with public access. JR is an important and beautiful natural area with a rich history and should be be developed for residential or commerical properties.,
10_waterfront_at_JR: it belongs to all of us
10_waterfront_at_JR: It should be kept for all people to use.
10_waterfront_at_JR: it should be protected, kept clean and open to surfers
10_waterfront_at_JR: It would improve immesily if it were pro-park, but would happen. the Valley is worthy though!
10_waterfront_at_JR: It wouldn't be the first time private lands have been donated to the province for parklands. (Sydney Island)
10_waterfront_at_JR: its a jewel of the province
10_waterfront_at_JR: ITS NOT JUST THE SURFERS
10_waterfront_at_JR: Iwould be lying if I said I understood all the differences in parks jurisdictions but whatever jurisdiction that gave the people who live full time in Jordan River the most say in what happens to the epicenter of there community. As for the rest of the land it should remain in large parcels zoned for forestry. Why should the real estate market and out of town investors be permitted to put people out of work and out of communities. I wonder if those investors would be willing to put up 50 million if they knew before hand that they would not be able to change to the zoning and punch out half acre lots?
10_waterfront_at_JR: keep as is
10_waterfront_at_JR: Keep the land and coast for all residents of BC; add to rest of park land around it
10_waterfront_at_JR: maybe it could be held as parkland longer as provicial?
10_waterfront_at_JR: more funding
10_waterfront_at_JR: nature preservation
10_waterfront_at_JR: needs to be a third party park, someone to manage it other than surfers
10_waterfront_at_JR: no change to current surroundings
10_waterfront_at_JR: no fees
10_waterfront_at_JR: no preferance really
10_waterfront_at_JR: No reason, just let us surf, forever. It's god's ocean, not yours.
10_waterfront_at_JR: nope
10_waterfront_at_JR: parks are accessible to all, not just the rich.
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10_waterfront_at_JR: Provincial park would keep the beach clean... I would rather it just stay at what it is right now.
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10_waterfront_at_JR: Pvrootiincial parks may have a better chance at changing the vibe away from the localism that has made this place a bittersweet blessing - local toughs have pushed hard to inhibit public access for the surfing history of this spot, and the special blend of localism should be tempered to deal with this and to avoid physical harm to clubbies and the public alike.
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10_waterfront_at_JR: Sharing is good
10_waterfront_at_JR: shoreline development here would be foolish if sea levels rise with gloabl warming.
10_waterfront_at_JR: so everyone can use for all diferent purposes
10_waterfront_at_JR: Some sort of park where there is public access, facilities etc.
10_waterfront_at_JR: something unique for the capital region district
10_waterfront_at_JR: The surrounding Provincial Parks are well managed and have been well looked after.
10_waterfront_at_JR: There's a lot more to jordan river than the point. It used to be a town. The low elevation waterfront should be kept open for the public but all that land on the other side of the highway is has great potential for other use.
10_waterfront_at_JR: This area must be preserved...no development...natural beauty is the reason for its appeal.
10_waterfront_at_JR: to keep it pristine and nice
10_waterfront_at_JR: to keep the coast line natural
10_waterfront_at_JR: want the clubbies out of there at all costs
10_waterfront_at_JR: waterfront at JR turned in to a
10_waterfront_at_JR: waterfront at JR turned in to a
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10_waterfront_at_JR: what ever offers the most protection from development
10_waterfront_at_JR: which ever one is able to protect the land against development
10_waterfront_at_JR: You've got provincial park all down the Juan de Fuca straight. This pristine land should be kept for everyone to enjoy. Paved paradise the put up a parking lot..........
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11_belong_to_BCSA: have belonged to first and last, but not currently
11_belong_to_BCSA: I am however a BCAA member.
11_belong_to_BCSA: I believe BCSA is a Tofino organization that fundrases for the groms
11_belong_to_BCSA: i don't belong anywhere
11_belong_to_BCSA: My wife is a member
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11_belong_to_BCSA: yesing for me is not about joining a group or following the crowd.
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11_belong_to_Surfrider: although I am going to join asap
11_belong_to_Surfrider: but am going to join very soon and go the the meetings
11_belong_to_Surfrider: But i support their organizations goals/ideals
11_belong_to_Surfrider: But i support their organizations goals/ideals
11_belong_to_Surfrider: havent paid for full membership
11_belong_to_Surfrider: I admire their dedication to the beaches
11_belong_to_Surfrider: I did, but it felt like a highschool popularity contest. I just wanted to get in, clean some shit up, make a difference, then go home at the end of the day. Not happening., ,
11_belong_to_Surfrider: I plan on joining in the near future.
11_belong_to_Surfrider: I think joining Surfrider is becoming more and more important so that surfers have a united voice
11_belong_to_Surfrider: I tried the never reply
11_belong_to_Surfrider: I used to
11_belong_to_Surfrider: know the members and are friendly with them
11_belong_to_Surfrider: miss informed anti -salmon farm info
11_belong_to_Surfrider: new to the area, hope to join soon
11_belong_to_Surfrider: should/will soon.
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11_belong_to_Surfrider: Tofino chapter
11_belong_to_Surfrider: victoria chapter is a joke, all surf promo, no real actions... hopefully they can stand up with this.,
11_belong_to_Surfrider: Was a member of surfrider from its inception in early 90's but as it began to have internal conflict i abandoned
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11_belong_to_WCSA: didn't know that new members were welcome
11_belong_to_WCSA: I admire their dedication to the point in Jordan River, most people don't understand that the WCSA is made up of the long-timers and not the fad-surfers. They're old school.
11_belong_to_WCSA: know the members and casually talk to some when I see them in the community
11_belong_to_WCSA: no chance. they haven't been appropriate 'ambassadors' for the area over the years, and I wouldn't want to be associated with people like this
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11_belong_to_WCSA: Their days in the sauna are numbered
11_belong_to_WCSA: wouldnt join those Bastar$%^ if they asked me to
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12_access_if_privatized: Be so sad in Canada's ability to give up everything that makes this place so beautiful..
12_access_if_privatized: Depends on how much development takes place
12_access_if_privatized: Do whatever it takes to get the waves
12_access_if_privatized: Do whatever it takes.
12_access_if_privatized: I dont see what all the hype is about. Its not like the average person feels welcome to go there and surf and hang as it is. Any change will be for the better.
12_access_if_privatized: I will be organizing protests to draw attention to the problem.
12_access_if_privatized: if the private owner allowa access i would gladly pay a parking and usage fee.
12_access_if_privatized: I'll walk down to the beach from my hilltop house in Jordan River
12_access_if_privatized: LAUGH SAD
12_access_if_privatized: never quit surfing jr
12_access_if_privatized: Oppose/Hinder Development in anyway possible.
12_access_if_privatized: Oppose/Hinder Development in anyway possible.
12_access_if_privatized: park on private property, surf, drink beer in private hot tub,
12_access_if_privatized: park whever available, paddle out wherever it suits for the wave
12_access_if_privatized: park_in_the_pull_out, _other_side_of_the_river_mouth
12_access_if_privatized: park_in_the_pull_out, _other_side_of_the_river_mouth
12_access_if_privatized: park_in_the_pull_out, _other_side_of_the_river_mouth
12_access_if_privatized: park_in_the_pull_out, _other_side_of_the_river_mouth
12_access_if_privatized: park_in_the_pull_out, _other_side_of_the_river_mouth
12_access_if_privatized: park_in_the_pull_out, _other_side_of_the_river_mouth
12_access_if_privatized: park_in_the_pull_out, _other_side_of_the_river_mouth
12_access_if_privatized: park_in_the_pull_out, _other_side_of_the_river_mouth
12_access_if_privatized: park_in_the_pull_out, _other_side_of_the_river_mouth
12_access_if_privatized: park_in_the_pull_out, _other_side_of_the_river_mouth
12_access_if_privatized: park_in_the_pull_out, _other_side_of_the_river_mouth
12_access_if_privatized: park_in_the_pull_out, _other_side_of_the_river_mouth
12_access_if_privatized: park_in_the_pull_out, _other_side_of_the_river_mouth
12_access_if_privatized: park_in_the_pull_out, _other_side_of_the_river_mouth
12_access_if_privatized: park_in_the_pull_out, _other_side_of_the_river_mouth
12_access_if_privatized: park_in_the_pull_out, _other_side_of_the_river_mouth
12_access_if_privatized: park_in_the_pull_out, _other_side_of_the_river_mouth
12_access_if_privatized: park_in_the_pull_out, _other_side_of_the_river_mouth
12_access_if_privatized: park_in_the_pull_out, _other_side_of_the_river_mouth
12_access_if_privatized: park_in_the_pull_out, _other_side_of_the_river_mouth
12_access_if_privatized: park_in_the_pull_out, _other_side_of_the_river_mouth
12_access_if_privatized: park_in_the_pull_out, _other_side_of_the_river_mouth
12_access_if_privatized: park_in_the_pull_out, _other_side_of_the_river_mouth
12_access_if_privatized: park_in_the_pull_out, _other_side_of_the_river_mouth
12_access_if_privatized: park_in_the_pull_out, _other_side_of_the_river_mouth
12_access_if_privatized: park_in_the_pull_out, _other_side_of_the_river_mouth
12_access_if_privatized: park_in_the_pull_out, _other_side_of_the_river_mouth
12_access_if_privatized: park_in_the_pull_out, _other_side_of_the_river_mouth
12_access_if_privatized: park_in_the_pull_out, _other_side_of_the_river_mouth
12_access_if_privatized: park_in_the_pull_out, _other_side_of_the_river_mouth
12_access_if_privatized: park_in_the_pull_out, _other_side_of_the_river_mouth
12_access_if_privatized: park_in_the_pull_out, _other_side_of_the_river_mouth
12_access_if_privatized: park_in_the_pull_out, _other_side_of_the_river_mouth
12_access_if_privatized: park_in_the_pull_out, _other_side_of_the_river_mouth
12_access_if_privatized: park_in_the_pull_out, _other_side_of_the_river_mouth
12_access_if_privatized: park_in_the_pull_out, _other_side_of_the_river_mouth
12_access_if_privatized: park_in_the_pull_out, _other_side_of_the_river_mouth
12_access_if_privatized: park_in_the_pull_out, _other_side_of_the_river_mouth
12_access_if_privatized: park_in_the_pull_out, _other_side_of_the_river_mouth
12_access_if_privatized: park_in_the_pull_out, _other_side_of_the_river_mouth
12_access_if_privatized: park_in_the_pull_out, _other_side_of_the_river_mouth
12_access_if_privatized: park_in_the_pull_out, _other_side_of_the_river_mouth
12_access_if_privatized: park_in_the_pull_out, _other_side_of_the_river_mouth
12_access_if_privatized: park_in_the_pull_out, _other_side_of_the_river_mouth
12_access_if_privatized: park_in_the_pull_out, _other_side_of_the_river_mouth
12_access_if_privatized: park_in_the_pull_out, _other_side_of_the_river_mouth
12_access_if_privatized: park_in_the_pull_out, _other_side_of_the_river_mouth
12_access_if_privatized: park_in_the_pull_out, _other_side_of_the_river_mouth
12_access_if_privatized: park_in_the_pull_out, _other_side_of_the_river_mouth
12_access_if_privatized: park_in_the_pull_out, _other_side_of_the_river_mouth
12_access_if_privatized: park_in_the_pull_out, _other_side_of_the_river_mouth
12_access_if_privatized: park_in_the_pull_out, _other_side_of_the_river_mouth
12_access_if_privatized: park_in_the_pull_out, _other_side_of_the_river_mouth
12_access_if_privatized: park_in_the_pull_out, _other_side_of_the_river_mouth
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_properties_across_the_highway_and_cross_the_highway_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_properties_across_the_highway_and_cross_the_highway_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_properties_across_the_highway_and_cross_the_highway_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_properties_across_the_highway_and_cross_the_highway_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_properties_across_the_highway_and_cross_the_highway_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_properties_across_the_highway_and_cross_the_highway_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_properties_across_the_highway_and_cross_the_highway_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_properties_across_the_highway_and_cross_the_highway_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_properties_across_the_highway_and_cross_the_highway_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_properties_across_the_highway_and_cross_the_highway_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_properties_across_the_highway_and_cross_the_highway_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_properties_across_the_highway_and_cross_the_highway_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_properties_across_the_highway_and_cross_the_highway_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_properties_across_the_highway_and_cross_the_highway_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_properties_across_the_highway_and_cross_the_highway_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_properties_across_the_highway_and_cross_the_highway_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_properties_across_the_highway_and_cross_the_highway_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_properties_across_the_highway_and_cross_the_highway_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_properties_across_the_highway_and_cross_the_highway_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_properties_across_the_highway_and_cross_the_highway_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_properties_across_the_highway_and_cross_the_highway_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_properties_across_the_highway_and_cross_the_highway_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_properties_across_the_highway_and_cross_the_highway_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_properties_across_the_highway_and_cross_the_highway_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_properties_across_the_highway_and_cross_the_highway_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_properties_across_the_highway_and_cross_the_highway_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_properties_across_the_highway_and_cross_the_highway_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_properties_across_the_highway_and_cross_the_highway_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_properties_across_the_highway_and_cross_the_highway_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_properties_across_the_highway_and_cross_the_highway_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_properties_across_the_highway_and_cross_the_highway_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_properties_across_the_highway_and_cross_the_highway_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_properties_across_the_highway_and_cross_the_highway_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_properties_across_the_highway_and_cross_the_highway_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_properties_across_the_highway_and_cross_the_highway_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_the_highway_and_cut_through_the_property_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_the_highway_and_cut_through_the_property_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_the_highway_and_cut_through_the_property_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_the_highway_and_cut_through_the_property_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_the_highway_and_cut_through_the_property_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_the_highway_and_cut_through_the_property_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_the_highway_and_cut_through_the_property_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_the_highway_and_cut_through_the_property_to_surf
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12_access_if_privatized: park_on_the_highway_and_cut_through_the_property_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_the_highway_and_cut_through_the_property_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_the_highway_and_cut_through_the_property_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_the_highway_and_cut_through_the_property_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_the_highway_and_cut_through_the_property_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_the_highway_and_cut_through_the_property_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_the_highway_and_cut_through_the_property_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_the_highway_and_cut_through_the_property_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_the_highway_and_cut_through_the_property_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_the_highway_and_cut_through_the_property_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_the_highway_and_cut_through_the_property_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_the_highway_and_cut_through_the_property_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_the_highway_and_cut_through_the_property_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_the_highway_and_cut_through_the_property_to_surf
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12_access_if_privatized: park_on_the_highway_and_cut_through_the_property_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_the_highway_and_cut_through_the_property_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_the_highway_and_cut_through_the_property_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_the_highway_and_cut_through_the_property_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_the_highway_and_cut_through_the_property_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_the_highway_and_cut_through_the_property_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_the_highway_and_cut_through_the_property_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_the_highway_and_cut_through_the_property_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_the_highway_and_cut_through_the_property_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_the_highway_and_cut_through_the_property_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_the_highway_and_cut_through_the_property_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_the_highway_and_cut_through_the_property_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_the_highway_and_cut_through_the_property_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_the_highway_and_cut_through_the_property_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_the_highway_and_cut_through_the_property_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_the_highway_and_cut_through_the_property_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_the_highway_and_cut_through_the_property_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_the_highway_and_cut_through_the_property_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_the_highway_and_cut_through_the_property_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_the_highway_and_cut_through_the_property_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_the_highway_and_cut_through_the_property_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_the_highway_and_cut_through_the_property_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_the_highway_and_cut_through_the_property_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_the_highway_and_cut_through_the_property_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_the_highway_and_cut_through_the_property_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_the_highway_and_cut_through_the_property_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_the_highway_and_cut_through_the_property_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_the_highway_and_cut_through_the_property_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_the_highway_and_cut_through_the_property_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_the_highway_and_cut_through_the_property_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_the_highway_and_cut_through_the_property_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_the_highway_and_cut_through_the_property_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_the_highway_and_cut_through_the_property_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_the_highway_and_cut_through_the_property_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_the_highway_and_cut_through_the_property_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_the_highway_and_cut_through_the_property_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_the_highway_and_cut_through_the_property_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_the_highway_and_cut_through_the_property_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_the_highway_and_cut_through_the_property_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_the_highway_and_cut_through_the_property_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_the_highway_and_cut_through_the_property_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_the_highway_and_cut_through_the_property_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_the_highway_and_cut_through_the_property_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_the_highway_and_cut_through_the_property_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_the_highway_and_cut_through_the_property_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_the_highway_and_cut_through_the_property_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_the_highway_and_cut_through_the_property_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_the_highway_and_cut_through_the_property_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_the_highway_and_go_around_the_property_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_the_highway_and_go_around_the_property_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_the_highway_and_go_around_the_property_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_the_highway_and_go_around_the_property_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_the_highway_and_go_around_the_property_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_the_highway_and_go_around_the_property_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_the_highway_and_go_around_the_property_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_the_highway_and_go_around_the_property_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_the_highway_and_go_around_the_property_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_the_highway_and_go_around_the_property_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_the_highway_and_go_around_the_property_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_the_highway_and_go_around_the_property_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_the_highway_and_go_around_the_property_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_the_highway_and_go_around_the_property_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_the_highway_and_go_around_the_property_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_the_highway_and_go_around_the_property_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_the_highway_and_go_around_the_property_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_the_highway_and_go_around_the_property_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_the_highway_and_go_around_the_property_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_the_highway_and_go_around_the_property_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_the_highway_and_go_around_the_property_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_the_highway_and_go_around_the_property_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_the_highway_and_go_around_the_property_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_the_highway_and_go_around_the_property_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_the_highway_and_go_around_the_property_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_the_highway_and_go_around_the_property_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_the_highway_and_go_around_the_property_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_the_highway_and_go_around_the_property_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_the_highway_and_go_around_the_property_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_the_highway_and_go_around_the_property_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_the_highway_and_go_around_the_property_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_the_highway_and_go_around_the_property_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_the_highway_and_go_around_the_property_to_surf
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12_access_if_privatized: park_on_the_highway_and_go_around_the_property_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_the_highway_and_go_around_the_property_to_surf
12_access_if_privatized: park_on_the_highway_and_go_around_the_property_to_surf
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12_access_if_privatized_other_comments: if there are waves, there is always a way!
12_access_if_privatized_other_comments: any way to access the waves! No one owns the Ocean!
12_access_if_privatized_other_comments: Be pissed off.
12_access_if_privatized_other_comments: but would never leave any trace than my tire print.
12_access_if_privatized_other_comments: depends if all the assholes there will let you surf.
12_access_if_privatized_other_comments: i already park on other side of bridge
12_access_if_privatized_other_comments: I firmly believe there is no way they can stop us from accessing the waves, and any developer would be out of his/her mind to try. That said, if we have to paddle around, or walk a little further so be it, they can't own the low water to high water mark area therefore we'll have access., ,
12_access_if_privatized_other_comments: I hope most people checked the first one.
12_access_if_privatized_other_comments: I usually surf north of JR anyway.
12_access_if_privatized_other_comments: i will harass yuppies
12_access_if_privatized_other_comments: i will not stop surfing there, regardless of how annoyed the owners get. private land extends to water line only
12_access_if_privatized_other_comments: I would never pay to park at jr or support any developments that may go in there.
12_access_if_privatized_other_comments: If the property is too large, I will cut through rather than spending the extra time going around.
12_access_if_privatized_other_comments: I'll drive to my surf spot, and surf, no matter what it takes.,
12_access_if_privatized_other_comments: it is a park
12_access_if_privatized_other_comments: it will be a headache for the owners
12_access_if_privatized_other_comments: Park anywhere I'm allowed and access the water however I can
12_access_if_privatized_other_comments: quit surfing , never
12_access_if_privatized_other_comments: regardless of development there should be public beach access
12_access_if_privatized_other_comments: The majority of people will do what is most convenient, some maybe a little more invasive to the property out of spite.
12_access_if_privatized_other_comments: The people who build a house there will have a lot of visitors
12_access_if_privatized_other_comments: whatever is done, I will still surf there
12_access_if_privatized_other_comments: whatever it takes, the surf is ours!
12_access_if_privatized_other_comments: whatever works
12_access_if_privatized_other_comments: would it really be such a big deal?
12_access_if_privatized_other_comments: you can't stop me
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13_know_jr_was_a_town: hump is the reason i know this
13_know_jr_was_a_town: I have only heard about the gas station
13_know_jr_was_a_town: I heard that there was a one room school there in the 1980's.
13_know_jr_was_a_town: i knew about the bar, hotel and gas but not the school
13_know_jr_was_a_town: I SKATE DONT SURF BUT LOVE NATURE
13_know_jr_was_a_town: I think my desk sits where the old barber shop was
13_know_jr_was_a_town: I was a youngster but I've heard the stories
13_know_jr_was_a_town: is there a price-tag on the point, (probably). Western Forest Products owes everyone that was born in b.c More than what they were given, for distroying what wasn't,
13_know_jr_was_a_town: It didnt really need all the extra stores. The majority of the people who are living there at the moment, moved there for the remotness and peace.
13_know_jr_was_a_town: lived on the island till 1998
13_know_jr_was_a_town: My buddy lived there when he was a kid so I've heard of JR since the early 90's, and got there myself more in the last few years now that I live in Victoria.
13_know_jr_was_a_town: My uncles logged there back then
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13_know_jr_was_a_town: read about the history a book (cedar surf I think it was called)
13_know_jr_was_a_town: still is a comunity
13_know_jr_was_a_town: The Cedar Surf!
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14_support_JR_fish_habitat: after the spill at the copper mine there hasn't been a whole lot of fish in that river.
14_support_JR_fish_habitat: As long as it doesn't rune the surf.
14_support_JR_fish_habitat: bring the fish back
14_support_JR_fish_habitat: Clean up the mine tailings? but what will happen when they reopen the mine? I hear the price of copper is going through the roof
14_support_JR_fish_habitat: I believ it is 30 meters from the high water mark. Riparian Rights www.agf.gov.bc.ca/clad/tenure_programs/cabinet/riparian.pdf
14_support_JR_fish_habitat: i hope you know. what fish?; salmon didn't open this year.
14_support_JR_fish_habitat: I would be willing to contribute to any volunteer efforts to improve/conserve fish habitat
14_support_JR_fish_habitat: I would definitley volunteer to help
14_support_JR_fish_habitat: if possible
14_support_JR_fish_habitat: nice place for a log sort, eh?
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14_support_JR_fish_habitat: resedtial would be better for the habitat than the log sort!
14_support_JR_fish_habitat: should be a requirement of development.
14_support_JR_fish_habitat: They need all the help they can get
14_support_JR_fish_habitat: We wouldnt need to pay to emprove the stream if they weren't planning on developing the area.
14_support_JR_fish_habitat: wild salmon must be protected for a sport fishery
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15_just_the_parking_lot: A good portion of the waterfront should be designated for public access
15_just_the_parking_lot: Any residential/housing development of any kind that is not "Zero Carbon" would be deterimental to the surrounding area.
15_just_the_parking_lot: Any residential/housing development of any kind that is not "Zero Carbon" would be deterimental to the surrounding area.
15_just_the_parking_lot: but that should include the watersheds
15_just_the_parking_lot: I rather see a house at sewers, than seeing wfp building
15_just_the_parking_lot: I really don't think that it would be possible to have lots in the woods as there is not eanough room. Also where would the sewage go? It can't go into the ocean anymore and there is no way that there could be a septic system put in on the land near or around the point.
15_just_the_parking_lot: I suppose it could be, although how well are any residential lots selling?
15_just_the_parking_lot: I wonder if you removed the trees from the point if the winter tides wouldn't wash most of it away anyways. Not to mention tsunami hysteria. I'd be hesitant to develop a multi-million dollar property without insurance
15_just_the_parking_lot: it is a park
15_just_the_parking_lot: it should all be a park, camping or not
15_just_the_parking_lot: it should be a park! All of it !
15_just_the_parking_lot: It should be all kept as it is.
15_just_the_parking_lot: It would be better off if it was all park though.
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15_just_the_parking_lot: no - more parks needed
15_just_the_parking_lot: no private development on the seaward side of the road
15_just_the_parking_lot: sell nothing.
15_just_the_parking_lot: something is better than nothing. At least you can still surf
15_just_the_parking_lot: the more land spared development the better.
15_just_the_parking_lot: there is not enough land there for that, all park please, sell french beach,
15_just_the_parking_lot: This place should be a park and the surf shack should be removed and fair access provided
15_just_the_parking_lot: WFP is not into selling residential lots. People don't understand that the area is zoned forestry (ie 1 residence/300 ha). WFP isn't rezoning anything but just selling it as is. So how could they sell a few 'residential' properties? you should be talking to the developers not to WFP. When an application to rezone is made, lobby all you want.
15_just_the_parking_lot: WFP should not be allowed to sell off TFL lands period
15_just_the_parking_lot: whatever floats yer boat
15_just_the_parking_lot: Whatever lets me and my family surf.
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16_webcam: #@$% NO WAY! is there nothing sacred? cell phones are bad enough!
16_webcam: are you kidding? how busy can you make the surf? this is not Tofino, never will be.
16_webcam: As long as their upgrades have no more environmental impact than normal visitation to the area
16_webcam: As long as their upgrades have no more environmental impact than normal visitation to the area
16_webcam: don't care. telus(your secrets)has their head up their ass
16_webcam: For those days you can't surf it's nice to take a 5 minute siesta and see what the waves are doing
16_webcam: i already paid for and had a cam installed at breakers rest a few years ago
16_webcam: I am not opposed but do not think a webcam is necessary or a good use of resources
16_webcam: I was thinking of putting my own in, say for $5 you could get a free surf report.
16_webcam: If you can't interpret a weather forecast prepare to skunked. You will learn eventually. We all did!
16_webcam: it is very busy as it is
16_webcam: It would be another California. If you really want to go surfing, the tools are there to predict what's going on. Learn how to read the buoy!
16_webcam: it wouldn't make me surf more, I'd just like to see how things are doing out there sometimes.
16_webcam: it's crowded enough already.
16_webcam: let's not make it that easy
16_webcam: maybe in 2009 there will be ADSL there...
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16_webcam: really?
16_webcam: Surfing is for everyone to know about
16_webcam: that's garbage
16_webcam: too lazy
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17_billion_dollar_payback: didn't think he (wacko) was involved.
17_billion_dollar_payback: dirty bastard
17_billion_dollar_payback: don't know enough about the politics involved
17_billion_dollar_payback: I didn't read the article, but what did the rest of the industry get in return.
17_billion_dollar_payback: I don't know, you can't trust corp's or politicians, they all sleep in the same bed,
17_billion_dollar_payback: I think it is BS
17_billion_dollar_payback: I think this is purely a provincial matter. The Tree farm was part of BC not the federal govt.
17_billion_dollar_payback: In my oppinion that is compairing apples and oranges.
17_billion_dollar_payback: in response to "What do peoples personal positions on the soft wood lumber dispute and raw log exports have to do with saving a beach?"...that is exactly why i posted my lengthly response to the question. I feel the statement on this topic and its following question are misplaced and take away from the true goal of this surveys real topic. "Saving the Beach" should be the primary focus, rather than misplacing blame with eroneous claims or pointed politically biased jabs. Regardless of political affiliation, saving a natural treasure should be the common goal...and this survery should not used as a political platform. Save the beach.,
17_billion_dollar_payback: it's called patronage
17_billion_dollar_payback: need to know more to comment
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17_billion_dollar_payback: No, they are just greedy!
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17_billion_dollar_payback: Pretty sure the whole operation has been subsidized for a very, very long time.
17_billion_dollar_payback: The land was given to them in the first place.
17_billion_dollar_payback: The softwood lumber conflict is in no way directly or souly the responsibility of Stephen Harper or any Canadian Prime Minister. Specifically "Canada was winning the process" is a massive over generalization of the state of affairs when concerning this Canada/Us trade conflict. Canada was favoured in many arbitrations as well as court rulings on the matter but Onus was placed on the US government to abide by these rulings. When viewing the Canada/US trade relationship surrounding softwood lumber and the ongoing and long standing (MUCH longer than that of the current U.S. OR Canadian governing bodies) struggle between both countries, a statement like the one presented becomes clearly biased and uninformed. To claim that "Stephen Harper [gave] a billion [dollars]" to the US clearly ignores the fact that the U.S. has withheld payment and return of over 2.3 billion dollars of the same industries funds via trade barriers.
17_billion_dollar_payback: There's no need for this political bullshit propaganda
17_billion_dollar_payback: this is a small tip of major things happening which really have impact in our communities. It makes the surfer hassles small fry, but it's the only part of the issue that people can get excited about - thousands of acres came up for sale in renfrew last year, and this is part of major trends to capitalize on the development of TFL lands into urban development - we need space, and it is only unfortunate that property is now unaccessible to those without deep pockets to dig into for getting the new land that is made available through these back room gov deals months and years in advance of us really knowing what is actually going on...
17_billion_dollar_payback: This statement is misleading, 100% eroneous, and a poorly used pro-dogwoodinitiative plug. The softwood lumber conflict is in no way directly or souly the responsibility of Stephen Harper or any Canadian Prime Minister. Specifically "Canada was winning the process" is a massive over generalization of the state of affairs when concerning this Canada/Us trade conflict. Canada was favoured in many arbitrations as well as court rulings on the matter but Onus was placed on the US government to abide by these rulings. When viewing the Canada/US trade relationship surrounding softwood lumber and the ongoing and long standing (MUCH longer than that of the current U.S. OR Canadian governing bodies) struggle between both countries, a statement like the one presented becomes clearly biased and uninformed. To claim that "Stephen Harper [gave] a billion [dollars]" to the US clearly ignores the fact that the U.S. has withheld payment and return of over 2.3 billion dollars of the same industries funds via trade barriers.
17_billion_dollar_payback: unknown, but a good speculation
17_billion_dollar_payback: Wfp and the gov owe us.
17_billion_dollar_payback: What have you been smoking? Typical hippie bull.
17_billion_dollar_payback: Who cares why? The question should be will our locally elected representatives stand up for the people that elected them
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17_billion_dollar_payback: You guys are idiots. WFP isn't selling ANY former crown land! dumbass.
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18_billion_dollar_gift_will_work: are you kidding?
18_billion_dollar_gift_will_work: for him probably
18_billion_dollar_gift_will_work: good lord!
18_billion_dollar_gift_will_work: Ha, ha good one!
18_billion_dollar_gift_will_work: I wonder if the survey author voted conservative?
18_billion_dollar_gift_will_work: If it doesn't we can always blame GWBush, and that should make us feel real cozy and all fuzzy
18_billion_dollar_gift_will_work: is this a survey or your personal political opinion???
18_billion_dollar_gift_will_work: it's like giving in to a bully.
18_billion_dollar_gift_will_work: Look at their stance on pot, and what their trying to do to Mark Emery.
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18_billion_dollar_gift_will_work: Stephen Harper is a pawn.
18_billion_dollar_gift_will_work: They always look after their own interests first. Canada has always been a push over to the states
18_billion_dollar_gift_will_work: They expect it and why shouldn't they. We keep giving it to them!
18_billion_dollar_gift_will_work: they're a-holes
18_billion_dollar_gift_will_work: This question has no bearing on the subject matter and should be removed along with the above presumptious statement/question. It hurts this surveys credibility and is not the time or place for regional
18_billion_dollar_gift_will_work: This question has no bearing on the true subject matter of this surery and should be removed along with the above biased statement/question. It hurts this surveys credibility and is not the time or place for mudslinging, whether the message is right or wrong.
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18_billion_dollar_gift_will_work: We have already agreed to give them set quantities of our forest products, water and electricity. What is a billion$ to them? They already own us!
18_billion_dollar_gift_will_work: We love them~There corps own us, and look the can.$ is goiing up.
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18_billion_dollar_gift_will_work: you're kidding me right?
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19_raw_log_exports: don't know enough about logging
19_raw_log_exports: don't know so won't comment here
19_raw_log_exports: Economic opportunity and lobbying are more "to blame" for this situation.
19_raw_log_exports: haven't researched this
19_raw_log_exports: I don't know enough about the economics of logging in BC, but I don't support Raw log exports.
19_raw_log_exports: If it is bad for our economy WHY would we export raw logs?
19_raw_log_exports: Im against raw log exports period, but what does this have to do with the point?
19_raw_log_exports: its the only way to support sustainable forestry in canada
19_raw_log_exports: NEWS FLASH: WFP supports mills on VI and does not export logs from crown land.
19_raw_log_exports: No idea.
19_raw_log_exports: No informed opinion
19_raw_log_exports: raw neconomical for locals
19_raw_log_exports: Say NO to ALL Governments and BANKS.
19_raw_log_exports: sure, but it will never ever happen. Raw logs exported from private land would need to be purchased back, and we can't afford our own land these days, since they have all been granted as TFL rights which are very real ad worth billions. Multi national corporations are the only entities which can afford our vast land wealth, and they are working hard to get it into their private ownership. JR is a tiny drop in the bucket on this, and we are truly screwed due to decades and centuries of glutunous consumption and granting of resources to money interests.,
19_raw_log_exports: Theyve logged the best wood and are done they want out clean before it gets taken away
19_raw_log_exports: total ban
19_raw_log_exports: total ban of raw exports
19_raw_log_exports: we need to make products
19_raw_log_exports: WFP's situation is purely a factor of how the company has been mis-managed. They seem to be more interested in doing big developments like Bear Mountain than being involved in the business of logging.
19_raw_log_exports: Why cut your nose off to spite your face?
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20_interaction__WCSA: 50/50 split depends on if anyone pissed in their cornflakes that day.
20_interaction__WCSA: assholes in the water
20_interaction__WCSA: back in the day that club was probably pretty cool, but know most of those people are fools.
20_interaction__WCSA: Be more specific
20_interaction__WCSA: BOTH
20_interaction__WCSA: both
20_interaction__WCSA: But who cares? Thus is a lineup.
20_interaction__WCSA: Clubbies are people who love surfing. I don't need to defend them. They can do that themselves. Negative interactions with them are no different than interactions with any local group that is routinely invaded by tourists. Be polite and keep a low profile and chances are you will have a positive experience
20_interaction__WCSA: Clubbies are rough jerks who are like a pack of ugly dogs fighting over meat. Rude, belligerent, physically agressive, and this is often treatment provided to accomplished and skilled surfers who have surfed in Canada for many years and at spots throughout the world. They are a major blight on surfing in Canada.
20_interaction__WCSA: drop in on a clubbie!
20_interaction__WCSA: f$#k wits
20_interaction__WCSA: Have to respect the old timers
20_interaction__WCSA: helped me out a few times
20_interaction__WCSA: i find this question, rude, too personal and misleading!,
20_interaction__WCSA: I have no idea who these people are
20_interaction__WCSA: I park down the road and paddle over to The Point. I don't agree with the way they harass other surfers in the line up. I think many people are tired of them trying to run the spot.
20_interaction__WCSA: I understand their attitude
20_interaction__WCSA: It depends who you are talking to...some of them are always negative towards anyone, others are great and always say hi.
20_interaction__WCSA: I've known them since the early eighties, and find them to be pretty much like surfers everywhere, if you show respect it's OK.,
20_interaction__WCSA: lots od localism, needs to be toned down
20_interaction__WCSA: mean folks
20_interaction__WCSA: more often than not the clubbies are jerks
20_interaction__WCSA: mostly stink-eye from them
20_interaction__WCSA: mostly we are locals and you are on our beach riding our waves. I really don't know if these guys should be getting any advantages over a regular surfer. It would be noce to know what they actually do for the site. If they do actually provide a service then sure they should get some advantages. I generally just steer clear of them.
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20_interaction__WCSA: no personal interactions but they certainly do not have the repuation of being friendly
20_interaction__WCSA: not that I know of, though there seem to be some aggro surfers that want the wave.
20_interaction__WCSA: old fools
20_interaction__WCSA: only in the water, pos and neg
20_interaction__WCSA: some are nice, and as with anything some have been very shitheads
20_interaction__WCSA: some of the meanest guys I've ever met in the water, and Ive surfed S. Cal, Hawaii and lots more.,
20_interaction__WCSA: sometimes jerks but they are in all places
20_interaction__WCSA: That is yhe one thing I am happy about, that damn shack getting ripped down.
20_interaction__WCSA: they are idiots
20_interaction__WCSA: They are usually dicks, but occasionally keep their large mouth's closed.
20_interaction__WCSA: They look out for the safety of the people using JR. They in-force the rules of the lineup and are never violent or aggressive---other surfers are the ones that cause problems!
20_interaction__WCSA: They taught me how to surf, and if some of you idiots could figure out the rules in the water there wouldn't be nearly so much grief.
20_interaction__WCSA: They've always made it known this is their turf, not a very friendly bunch.....
20_interaction__WCSA: Total dicks
20_interaction__WCSA: tried to fight me , slashed my tire, threats, etc........
20_interaction__WCSA: we all know the pecking order
20_interaction__WCSA: When I first started surfing here in the late eighties and early ninetys as a teenager I thought that I had very negative interations with clubbies. These guys were burly bearded men whose looks alone could keep you from surfing here. I was persistant, kept paddling out and began catching waves. These guys taught me respect and I learned alot from them. I can loook back now and realize they were after what we are now dealing with here. Preserving this beautiful place. After surfing the south Island for 15 years I now am landlocked in the interior but fully suport this cause.
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21_park_management_comment: again, whoever manages it should be able to respond to the communities interests, and if that is the CRD, so be it.
21_park_management_comment: anybody but the clubbies
21_park_management_comment: anyone but clubbies
21_park_management_comment: Anyone but the BCSA (Clubbies)
21_park_management_comment: b.c. surf parks?
21_park_management_comment: give that rude lady and her dude a gov. job( they live in trailer and don't surf)
21_park_management_comment: I didn't realize that the WCSA was a card carrying organization but let the campers pay a bit in the summer to keep it clean and let the people have it in the winter and we'll look after it
21_park_management_comment: I think that BC Parks does a poor job of managing Sombrio (look at the road). The outhouses are disgusting! The current caretaker at JR is doing a wonderful job.
21_park_management_comment: I would propose keeping improvements to a minimum and let the scene take care of itself with support from the local government
21_park_management_comment: If one organization ruled it, esopecially the clubbies, it would be dominated. You need a third party, not a surf organization to manage the park.
21_park_management_comment: If the clubbies get to manage the thing Im gonna freaking flip... that would be SO backwards, just reward them for thier hostility, great idea guys!,
21_park_management_comment: many options
21_park_management_comment: or the CRD
21_park_management_comment: putting the park in the hands of surfers makes it exclusive. kindof like howthe locals out there run it now
21_park_management_comment: should be a neutral organization, not an interest group
21_park_management_comment: someone who does'nt have a vested interest other than the publics right
21_park_management_comment: the present contractor is doing a good job of security and maintence there.
21_park_management_comment: there is no way clubbies should manage anything
21_park_management_comment: Whatever it takes to have free parking and camping still
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21_park_management_other: I think Sheryl should keep running it. She's done a fantastic job.
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22_anything_more_to_say: I think most (real) surfers would be willing to dedicate some of their time and money towards this cause - Schedule permitting. Thanks for taking some initiative!
22_anything_more_to_say: this is not the first time/place nor the last that this has happened, it wll all be gone if we don't find a way to take some control.
22_anything_more_to_say: $ parking would be cool
22_anything_more_to_say: Access and development in the water itself are the only real concerns here I think. What happens on the land itself is of little concern once you are in the break. The place already has an industrial and commercial development - why are houses so bad? Acess, access, access.,
22_anything_more_to_say: Being that I am a US citizen and reside in the US, I didn't feel informed enough to answer all the questions. The Jordan River has been my favorite place to come visit in BC, and it would be a shame to see the access restricted to the public or to visitors such as myself. ,
22_anything_more_to_say: change is inevitable, but we should not permit special places like Jordan that are already used by so many people as a public place to become private land. The number of surfers, kyakers and campers that use Jordan and other spots is only going to grow, so we should be looking to expand public parks like this as much as we look to expand things like roads and other public services. Developements can happen anywhere, but only a few surf spots like Jordan and the surrounding area are available. They should be for everyone to enjoy, not just a wealthy few.,
22_anything_more_to_say: Development and utilization of resources has always been critical for anything to survive. Unfortunately in BC and Canada's development right now we are dealing with TFL land deals that are 50, 75, 100+ years old, where the vast majority of this province was granted to corporate interests and wealthy families for harvest and development. WFP owns lands that are passed down through this legacy of corporate rights to what where once the queens/natives lands here in Canada. This now leaves us with the stinking mess of Vancouver and the legislature following the examples of history, where corporate profits and government revenues are the priority. Communities will exist on the whims made in lofty white collar offices in Vancouver and Victoria, and it will be a long time before an average person can afford to develop a future for their families on land in BC. Land is not being made available for normal people but is parsed out in this kind of deal where large corporate and development interestes are served first and at huge cost and profit potential. We really only care about it because we may lose access to a few acres of a controversial surf spot, which happens to be an incredible place on this earth.
22_anything_more_to_say: Hope, we can still keep the land the way it is and also make sure that the surfers that think that they own the place before and most of the time gave some other people trouble to be surfing "their" wave, understand that the land and the ocean doesnt belong to anyone but everyone.Thats why you should alkways be friendly, so you can have as many people on your side at all times. Peace.
22_anything_more_to_say: Hopefully Jordan River is preserved or if developed, with input from its community members
22_anything_more_to_say: How did WHP get the land in the first place?It was given to tgem to log, not to own and sell as they please. that land belongs to all of us and should be used by everyone.
22_anything_more_to_say: I believe that Western Forest Products should not be selling this poroperty as the area from Sooke onwards to Port Renfrew is one of the few areas on the Island where there is no current large commercial development happening. Personally I go out there to get away from the city, see the trees, take in the fresh air, and relax. I would imagine that the majority of the community and the surfing community would feel the same way.
22_anything_more_to_say: i think allowing the timber company to sell of the provinces' land is a joke and yet another corporate subsidy that is only fueling the destruction of bc environment.
22_anything_more_to_say: I think our island as a community and the government we elect has bent over backwards for this and other forest companies to make a profit at our expense. I don't have a problem with them leaving town. What I dearly hope is that our government (the ones that are supposed to be working for us)can really listen to the wishes of the people in the communities that they drastically impact. I challenge them to not listen to the person with the most money and the fancy presentation. I doubt they will though.
22_anything_more_to_say: I think the clubbies and their attitudes have unfortunately compromised much of the support they may have had from other surfers who may actually benefit from them being forced from their club house on the JR property.
22_anything_more_to_say: I think the sael of these lands is dispicable and those responsible should look aty what they are doing. People who would buy these potential homes would not even live there full time and are probably not even from Canada. The forests are being cut down for What? Community Living??? Do not continue to pursue these land developments. Thank you
22_anything_more_to_say: I would love it for Chip Wilson to buy the lot at JR and put up an educational centre!
22_anything_more_to_say: I'm amazed that these jokers can hide their land investment under the auspices of a TFL, watch the land prices skyrocket (while sitting in a tax haven), and then pull it out after reaping the benefits of access to crown land under this sweetheart deal. Unbelievable.,
22_anything_more_to_say: It is definitley our job as citizens of the island to voice our opinion and try and save this parcel of land.
22_anything_more_to_say: It would be a real shame to lose this fantastic surfing area.
22_anything_more_to_say: It would be nice if we had the majority rule; the wiser people of our minority, but that won't happen because the banks rule the world. DON'T SNAKE WAVES-SNAKES!
22_anything_more_to_say: JR is basically a world class break when its on. It deserves to be in the lime light. Look at how close it is to population centers, and how sick it gets. People who cant handle the scene changing should pack and set up in Alaska or something. Out with the old... and dont talk to me about all that respect crap, Ill respect ANYONE who shows me BASIC common courtesy, and 80% of the old schoolers out there cant seem to firgure that out.
22_anything_more_to_say: Karma has a funny way rearing it ugly head. The assholes at JR deservthis after their years of complete assholeness. Let everybody surf there. It supposed to be all about fun. Not worrying about the dickhead next to you giving you the stink eye. I would love it to stay as a park for the public. But I do mean public, not only the Clubbies. It is a public beach for gods sake.
22_anything_more_to_say: Let's fight to keep these lands safe! Stop foreign and big business investment while there is still land that is undeveloped! STOP URBAN SPRAWL!
22_anything_more_to_say: make it a park for all time and get the clubbies out
22_anything_more_to_say: many of the people in JR are assholes. perhaps this is poetic justice or karma, sorting out those who tried to make it their own personal break.
22_anything_more_to_say: people are so pathetically misinformed.
22_anything_more_to_say: People will never stop surfing JR, no matter what.
22_anything_more_to_say: re: this questionnaire - the carpool question appears twice in the first section
22_anything_more_to_say: SAVE OUR SURF
22_anything_more_to_say: Save our West Coast!!!!
22_anything_more_to_say: Thanks to everyone trying to make JR into a park.
22_anything_more_to_say: That the government allows forest companies to take land of the reserve without public consultation is akin to public deceit. It's unacceptable and this sale perfectly demonstrates why that is.
22_anything_more_to_say: the hole coast should stay natural and the clubhouse should be torn down
22_anything_more_to_say: The provincial government is foolish not to act on this opportunity to preserve such an important recreational location as well as a large section of productive forest land. If large scale developement is alowwed to destroy this area we will forever regret our lack of action towards preservation of this land.
22_anything_more_to_say: The softwood lumber conflict is in no way directly or souly the responsibility of Stephen Harper or any Canadian Prime Minister. Specifically "Canada was winning the process" is a massive over generalization of the state of affairs when concerning this Canada/Us trade conflict. Canada was favoured in many arbitrations as well as court rulings on the matter but Onus was placed on the US government to abide by these rulings. When viewing the Canada/US trade relationship surrounding softwood lumber and the ongoing and long standing (MUCH longer than that of the current U.S. OR Canadian governing bodies) struggle between both countries, a statement like the one presented in this survery becomes clearly biased and uninformed. To claim that "Stephen Harper [gave] a billion [dollars]" to the US clearly ignores the fact that the U.S. has withheld payment and return of over 2.3 billion dollars of the same industries funds via trade barriers, even after court rulings. The assumed statement and following question above needs to be removed to regain this surveys credibility. I was disappointed to discover it fear it could sour the intent of this exercise/public record.,
22_anything_more_to_say: The whole thing is f$#ked. Our Island is going to shit and pretty soon the only people that will live here are the rich and privlieged, not the people that grew up here, cause we can't afford it anymore.,
22_anything_more_to_say: this is a small pice of land shared by many as a park. if this pice is not good for forestry it should be traded to wfp for land that is, they should not be allowed to sell as real estate.
22_anything_more_to_say: This is a very special spot on our coast, the best accessable wave around. It should be protected for all to share and enjoy and learn from. It would be very sad indeed to see houses on a spot like this. There will be trouble.
22_anything_more_to_say: this is just awful and makes me want to scream! my daughter was born on the island and the island considered closest to home as it ever got because of it's beauty. i used to go (to areas of concern) often in the early 90's and have some beautiful memories, hopefully that is not i'm gonna be left with. these lands should be protected from development and for all to enjoy. they are trully magical. NOT FOR DEVELOPMENT and rich foreign investors! ...impatiently awating the big one!
22_anything_more_to_say: What do peoples personal positions on the soft wood lumber dispute and raw log exports have to do with saving a beach?
22_anything_more_to_say: I am a resident of the Juan de Fuca electoral area and I believe the provincial government should be ashamed for allowing the sale of forestry land at Jordan River. I only hope itís not too late for the decision to be reversed. Are all of you aware of this particular area? What pisses me off the most is that the government decision makers (Rich Coleman for example) usually live nowhere near the areas they deem suitable for sale or change (ie urban sprawl). They know nothing about how many people use this area for recreational purpose, and in this particular case, the ďbigĒ provincial decision makers didnít even consult with the local government (the CRD) about the WFP land sale Ė which is absolutely outrageous! Decisions like that should be illegal. The decision should be up to the local government who consults with the local residents!
Rich Coleman believes that allowing this tree farming land to be sold will save 3000 jobs. I donít understand how selling 12000 hectres of tree farm land will preserve 3000 jobs? Doesnít selling logging land mean fewer trees to farm therefore less jobs needed? Regardless, this land sale may save jobs and it may create a number of jobs on the development side of things, which may be good news to some, but is a few thousand jobs lasting a few years worth the cost of destroying acres upon acres of natural coastal region that is enjoyed by thousands every weekend? I donít think so. Iím sure when international tourists drive by Jordan River on their way to the West Coast Trail they will shake their heads when they see that the Canadian government allowed the development of such pristine coastal land. Itís shameful.
This decision was not right as the people of the area were not consulted. Please do not allow the sale of the Jordan River coastal waterfront.

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